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bona natural seal on white oak

bona natural seal on white oak

Apr 09th 2023

Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. Its for a new build. See the before and afters and why we chose this color. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). Thank you. It was so clean, perfect match for my cabinets, so WHITE (no yellow, gray or beige cast). They look closer to the raw wood tone. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. I wish people would just post the actual products they use as there are a lot of great examples but no "recipes". One coat application to saturation, or (for best results apply 2nd coat 'wet on wet') Resistant to algae, lichen and staining. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. NO true Quartzite will etch. Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. It did not affect the color. How much should I expect the Traffic HD to change the color? I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. There's nothing wrong with making a minor mistake, nor with owning up to it. Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Rift white oak lowers and white uppers. It was light and made the room appear larger. Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. You might want to do some reading regarding matt finish. Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Give your joints a break while you're standing at the stove, with these resilient and beautiful materials for kitchen floors, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, 7 Kitchen Flooring Materials to Boost Your Cooking Comfort. Your comment was devised to make me feel small and make worry about my floors when they are already finished. We ordered select boards but there were a lot of character boards in the delivery. Emily Henderson has a white metal railing in her split level home that is pretty gorgeous and widely photographed. The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. (BTW - We ran into the issue with getting character grade mixed into our select a bit too, very frustrating!). Let him fix it ONCE. I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. They held up to move in with no major scratches. I had no idea that white oak looks different when grown in one geographical area versus another. I know I've gone on for a while. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. I will have to follow up. Nice when a risk pays off . Directly before me was one of the mirrors I have mentioned, in which I saw reflected the tall shape of my friend, Mr. Jennings, leaning over my shoulder, and reading the page at which I was I'm sorry you felt diminished. Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. Not always as expected. The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Nice, eh?! A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. !Are you happy with the Satin? We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. We told the company to put 3 coats of the Bona product on the floors. Here are some of my samples. I got attacked on this thread or another Houzz thread by a contractor for mentioning Rubio for cabinets but I did a ton of research and looked at pictures and it is what we went with. I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. (It looks a little pink on my IPad - its not in real life. For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. Now green is having a moment in the kitchen, These design moves will add even more to white kitchen cabinets appeal, Find out the most popular countertop, flooring, cabinet, backsplash and paint picks among homeowners who are renovating, Neutrals still dominate cabinet color. Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. There is no haze and the floors look very pretty, natural in color with a light sheen. We went with natural seal and traffic HD finish. Ryan Danielson and Angela Watkins did either of you find a solution to achieve the natural white oak finish you were looking for? I read that Natural has a bit of white in it too to avoid the yellow, but unsure if that is fact. Just my 2 cents worth but typically, OAK flooring will shrink/expand ACROSS the grain it's usually pretty stable end to end, as with most hardwood species. Your floors are as important as your roof. G & S gave helpful advice prior to these last two posts that are nasty. and 3 coats of Satin (which satin did you choose since there are 5 satins from Bona). Bona Intense Seal Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. Most of the articles I read suggested that 3 protective coats is the way to go. It may not be the same price you would get if you buy it yourself from Cochrans. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, Color of the Year: Off-White Is On Trend for 2016, Houzz Tour: A Beautiful Nordic Dream in Sweden, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. Site finish your floors with Rubio monocoat and get exactly what you want. :), McCarthy September 15 2020 post question about last sentence, or anyone please+sealant. Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. Getting gloomy from cool gray? WebOld worn white oak floors get a makover with Provincial stain to achieve a warm medium toned brown. I screwed that up a few times. We are prepping for a remodel and I have been using my kids roll of art paper and taping it to the ceiling to construct mock ups of potential walls. ! (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) It is less than $0.85/sf. Different painters proposing different solutions to calcimine ceiling. Maybe a snick less because they won't be using any product. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. You have a special floor. It is the single most abused/used FINISH ('finish' means 'pretty) in your home. I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. Which is why I posted asking for people's experiences today, but I never received any replies. Yes they can be 'walked on' after 3 daysbut moving furniture in is not ideal until 5 days have passed. WebApplication of the sealer will alter the chemical structure of the porous sandstone or natural stone providing a excellent water repellent and stain resistant surface. Any reputable stone dealer and fabricator should be able to tell you which are grainy Quartzites and which are Crystalline. He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. The advanced technology formula provides speed and high performance for hardwood floor finishing professionals. BTW after the fabricator installed the countertops (and carefully covered them to protect them), other contractors uncovered them and used them as a work bench and scratched them up - a lot! The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. @kasmit00 Did you ever find the recipe for your post from last year with the beautiful soft "brown" floors? D Debra Travis Red Oak Hardwood Floors Installing Hardwood Floors Natural Wood Flooring Decoration We refinishing the floor and apply natural seal from bona and top coat bona mega one satin D That's not what was happening. So I suppose its even better than 3 coats in 3 days as I originally thought given your advice. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Kitchen of the Week: Brick, Wood and Clean White Lines, Kitchen of the Week: A Designer's Budget Wood-and-White Makeover, New This Week: 3 Beautifully Balanced White Kitchens, Kitchen of the Week: White, Wood, Gray and a Backsplash Surprise, 5 Countertops That Look Beautiful in a White Kitchen, Kitchen of the Week: Fans of Traditional Style Go For a Mad Men Look. Our new floors just got done and we got to sneak a peek. Gravity works. So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. My sister has Neolith and loves it (clean up a breeze but she does have nicks near her sink after 1 year). And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Thank you and the pros who commented for the valuable info! Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? If you have 3000sf then the $2500 upgrade is nothing. It is the way it is normally done. We are wrapping up our new build and the floor stain choice was today. The people there were very patient with us and very helpful. @Jessica Lirag what did you end up with? @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. Can you share the color? In fact, Im pretty sure the samples were just wound into the builders quote to us for the floors. (Mirror and lighting still not in). Dont know if you can see much in this photo the brown paper is torn away under the island and an area of the floor shows there. Sigh. Finished with three matte protective coats. Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. BTW, we used Corian old fashioned solid surface Corian in our kitchen and in 2 bathrooms. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. The above comments are right. Light, white sealed floors or dark dramatic floors? The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout. Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? It still should not come off. Granite and Quartzite have completely different make-ups. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. I can see the installer has the ABILITY to do make this finish workhe just ran out of time and money because of his bid (which was too low for full glue). Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? The cost of the floors and Bona sealer plus 3 protective coats was almost twice the price that my parents paid for the house I grew up in so be prepared to gasp and clutch your wallet. Thank you. Please leave this post up. Use two coats of natural seal and two coats of naturale. The lowest level of gloss I suggest to 'clean-shiny' person is semi-gloss. Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. But that's all it does. And DuraSeal is not necessarily considered "professional grade". They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. Yep. Classic seall will add more tan/yellow. Any specific fillers recommended for the knots & gaps ? That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. The reactive simply pulls the tannins. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. In your photos, it actually looks like your parquet is made solid squares, nicer to see larger woodgrain patterns instead of the 4 or 5 slat in a checkerboard pattern(each "tile" would have 12 or 14 etc total slats in one 1 sf "tile". can you share any pix? I hope some of this information is helpful. W Spray Mop Kit EJD1462712 1 coat of nordic seal will subtly lighten the color of white oak, while 2 coats of nordic seal will make it significantly lighter. I am on info overload. Red oak stairs - Do I install white oak floors or red? Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. Get the third coat of sealer. WebWe just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. 3 coats in one day. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. The trick is to A) find the professional trained in water based finishes and B) keep the sheen to satin or matte. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. We are deciding between Classic and Intense seal on our white oak floors as well! WebOur new build has white oak hardwoods & Id LOVE to have them look like these. The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. what made you decide to go with natural. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. And using Bona Traffic HD is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mega. if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. Now green is having a moment in the kitchen, Understand how sunlight affects your rooms and get tips on choosing paint colors for each type of exposure, Do you love perfection or patina? They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. Thanks so much! so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? Nordic seal has white pigments. Your wood may take the coats differently than our wood. If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". That makes SOOOO much sense. Thank you for your input. It will make the white oak whiter. The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. I think of a coat of sealant as 1/2 a coat of finish. Great photos and beautiful floors! I am sorry , Thank you!! Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. This was such a great informative thread. YesBona Traffic HD is MUCH more expensive than over-the-counter stuff. The other two will give you more color. I wasnt wild about any of the patterns. I recall having 3 layers - but my old post notes 4. If the floor looks as good as this little exposed area, Ill be really HAPPY. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. Someone posted on here that if you like a just washed look reconsider using matte. Thank you so much! The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Imagine if that would have been quartz? I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. I thought I was going with Pallman's white, because it was gorgeous on the 15"X8" sample but on the larger sample with a new bundle of wood it pulled way too pink, even on white oak. I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. The info is helpful and Im discerning enough to sort out immature comments. I will post pictures. Hey Merrilyn, looks like we are in the same boat. Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. It offers a bigger margin of profit. If you are someone who loves the look of the 'raw floor' but you HATE the hazy look of NaturalSeal, then I HIGHLY recommend going with the satin. Ill try to get a better photo next time I go to the house (were still not in). I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. @mtpo - When will your floors be finished? This only matters for porosity not hardness. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. Curtains will block the bookcase. (Just read the dog drool threads.) I have read so many wood floor horror stories. I have found some great inspirational pictures. As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. I like the stains that are made by the same company that makes the finish. True Quartzite is higher on the mohl's scale of hardness then granite. Home Layout Changes - Full Remodel - Please help me decide! They bring in wood from various locations. He can 'cut in' the edges of the floor with a brush, bite a sandwich, chew, take a drink, go toilette, come back and work the job with a T-barand STILL have time to go over several sections if it looks 'dry'. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? A gallon of Bona Traffic HD = $180 - $200. But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. True Quartzite is very dense and many are not prone to staining. Thank you for posting a picture! Forget prefinished. @mtpo Your floors are beautiful. I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. The reason: they turn orange. Hi M, thank you! It must be sanded down and done again. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. I was thinking Bona Natural and then Bona Extra Matte finish? Thank you for suggesting Bona Mega One. White streaks in floor. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. @HU-6868130 your herringbone looks amazing! Is that really that difficult? Flooring guys are the best since they are redoing to make me happy. Bona Natural Seal on the top, Bona Nordic Seal on the bottom. @j, @ Renee, It is satin. WebBona DriFast Stain is a premium quick-drying stain for interior hardwood floors. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. If, Bona Mega is your budget. How to protect the wood enough for kitchen cabinet use but 1. There are some finishes that are a 'high-gloss satin' but I don't know where Bona Traffic HD satin sits on the glossy or not gloss level. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. We got to see snippets of the finished floor today, and we love what we see. The floor guys made custom floor vents. That seems light to me, but he said it was sufficient (that word doesnt make me feel convinced). Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? He is a small shop and me and one other of his clients are the first to ask him for a "raw look" rift sawn white oak door. I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. Three teenagers, a dog. @CEM TOSA It took me forever to decide on countertops. This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. Look out for inexperience. If you want a bit of "yellow depth" to the floor, then work with an oil modified. What is your installer recommending? Watching them put it on, it doesnt look like the work applying it would be more than other finish products. If that's OK to do (ie I remember hearing it's a problem when you apply more layers like poly but I'm not sure) it might work for you. Not change the raw color much, 2. That means a single guy can take his time. Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. I am actually in the process of having a quart sample of the Milesi Natural Effect 2k finish sent my way. And all the answers. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. . Attached is a photo of the hardwood unfinished without stain. The correct answer should be "nothing at all".

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